[Philmont] One mans opinion ---- PhilEagles

 OK...I'm going to veer off a little base on the One Man's Opinion and talk about Philmont and Eagles....I TOTALLY AGREE!!

There are a myriad of reasons for the tie-in between achieving Eagle and going to Philmont....its not essential....but its a great motivator

We went in '02 with 10 scouts. Nine became Eagle (1 was a Ranger in '06, 2 hike 600 miles on the AT)....the one was wanting to drop out of scouting the year before Philmont...but hung in to make Philmont. I still regret not being able to figure out a motivation that would have worked for him.

We had a crew go as part of a council contingent in '06, all are still active, 2 Eagles, 4 Life and 1 Ranger ('08).

We have another crew leaving Sunday....1 Eagle among them.

On the PhilEagles...all mentioned Philmont as one of the most significant Scouting Events as part of their Eagle Boards.

Having been only once ('02)....I think if you can make it ...GO.....if you can encourage a Scout to go...DO EVERYTHING YOU CAN TO MAKE IT HAPPEN....

That's all for this Old Fat Former Scoutmaster (who will have 19 Eagles in 4 years by the end of summer)

Brian, '02
Eagle Advisor T-319
Louisville, KY

-----Original Message-----
From: Donald S. Roberts <donald@hummellawfirm.com>
To: Philmont List Member <Philmont@troop47.com>
Sent: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 3:55 pm
Subject: [Philmont] One mans opinion

One
factor that is not well addressed on this list is that a trip
to

Philmont, from the perspective of *most* youth, is just
another

outing
- until they've been there.

?

Unless
you have enthusiastic, experienced adults to help

the
youth see the sweetness of the trip, the youth will be

hard
pressed to really get behind going.? So there is a real

argument for having adults repeat.

?

In our
troop, since I've been involved, we have had treks in

2003,
2005 and 2008.? Of those three trips, only one adult

repeated for two, and no youth repeated.? On the trip with
an

adult
repeater, there were only two adults on the crew and we

had 11
in our crew.? That adult did not take someone else's

spot,
and he had an opportunity to go with each of his two sons.

?

Of the
2003 and 2005 crews, Every one who has since

aged
out is now an eagle.??Of the last?four still in the
troop,

all
but one is also an eagle.? That last is working on it.?

I
don't know if there is a relationship between their
participation

and
achieving Eagle, but there you have it.? Obviously, the

2005
crew was a very young crew (our oldest at the time was 15).

?

Has
our troop's ability to go three times in six years deprived

other
units from doing so?? Possibly, though there are
programs

at
Philmont that go unfilled, Rayado, OA Trail Crew, Autumn

Adventure, Kanik, short treks.? Has it resulted in 25 different

youth
going and doing full treks?? Certainly.

?

For
those who bemoan troops going every other year, do

you
really feel we've somehow taken advantage of you by

having
these three treks?

?

Don
Roberts

Fullerton, CA

PTC/International 08 (two weeks!)

Daughter on Mountain Woman trek

?

?

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