[Philmont] Advisor Questions

From: Daniel Smart <bhamdans@gmail.com>
Date: Mon Jun 09 2008 - 14:21:07 CDT

Just a comment... We augment the PCT method with a lightweight "real"
climbing type caribiner on top and a medium sized "walmart" caribiner in
place of the stick. Agree on counterbalance with a full load. Requires
pulling up much less weight since the other 1/2 of weight is helping you,
not hurting you.

-=Dan=-

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Donald S. Roberts <donald@hummellawfirm.com>
wrote:

> Dan:
> You *might* be able to get away with it. Unfortunately, some nosy :-)
> ranger may come by and tell you not to do that anymore.
> I don't see that method as any more effective (or easier) than counter
> balance. I would say you are going to put a *lot* of stress on a "twig" and
> on a single carabiner. As I mentioned, you could be looking at hanging as
> much as 100 pounds, and unless you have a bunch of extra rope, you can't do
> multiple hangings.
>
> Let's face it, the Philmont folks are easterners. Few of the decision
> makers come from areas west of the Rockies. Their methods are designed by
> folks that don't have the problems we face on the west coast. As I said, in
> the Sierras, the tie off method would result in your food in the hands of a
> bear, raccoon or marmot.
>
> Regards
> Don
>
> *From:* Daniel Smart
> Don,
> We trained our boys on the Pacific Crest Trail method of hanging which uses
> a stop stick on the down string to suspend the food without tying to a
> tree. I understand that the Ranger will teach the tie-off method. Can you
> revert back after day 3?
>
> See
> http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/bear_bag_hanging_technique.htmlon method
>
> -=Dan=-
>
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