[philmont] Common sense

From: John LeBlanc <philmontjohn@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat Jun 14 2008 - 06:06:44 CDT

There has been an insinuation by the California twister that I suggest NOT eating dehydrated corn.&nbsp; Not so.&nbsp; What I stated is exactly what Mike Kruk states below only he terms it "common sense".&nbsp; What is "common sense" to a physician is not necessarily "common sense" to many other members of the human race not trained in the finer aspects of human physiology.
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Back to my original comment, I suggested one be cognizant of the balance of dry vs liquid fuel intake.&nbsp; No more, no less.&nbsp; The absense or presence&nbsp;of Mike's stated "common sense" is the crux of the matter.
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Common sense to one may not be common sense to another.&nbsp;
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John LeBlanc
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--- On Fri, 6/13/08, Mike Kruk &lt;krukmike@hotmail.com&gt; wrote:

From: Mike Kruk &lt;krukmike@hotmail.com&gt;
Subject: [philmont] Is it true? Is it true? Is it true?
To: "philmont List Member" &lt;philmont@troop47.com&gt;
Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 1:36 PM

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Well, as a physician,...
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The stomach produces 1-2 liters of acid a day for digestion.&nbsp; So the dehydrated corn will be rehydrated to the extent needed for digestion.&nbsp; True total body dehydration does not occur, since everything going downstream pretty much gets reabsorbed due to the efficiency of the colon to remove liguid.&nbsp; So there is minimal net loss of fluid during the process, and certainly no net gain with freezed dried corn.
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You still just need the common sense fluid replacement you would normally take in to prevent dehydration and altitude sickness on the trail.
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So crunch away on the corn if it suits you!
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-mike kruk, MD, ABFP, Sports Medicine

Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 10:40:27 -0700
From: philmontjohn@yahoo.com
Subject: [philmont] Is it true? Is it true? Is it true?
To: philmont@troop47.com

Well, as a biologist, I'll give you the shortened version of putting things into the stomach, both liquid and solid.&nbsp; when there is a demand for water/liquid to dilute the contents, it takes it from the bloodstream.&nbsp; so, without replacement, this condition is called dehydration.&nbsp; It's really a pretty simple and straight forward concept to understand.
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Most food products we consume contain a large amount of water.&nbsp; for example, take the human body.&nbsp; It contains 85% water.&nbsp; If we eat a human that weighs 100 lbs, we get 15 pounds of dry stuff and 85 pounds of water which is 85 pints of water.
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If you eat freeze dried corn which contains less than .5% water, then how much water do you get by eating the corn?&nbsp; Now is it coming into focus?
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Eating dry dehydrated corn is akin to eating bits of a sponge or in a more classical sense drinking concentrated Gatorade.&nbsp; The body will give up water from the blood to dilute the stomach contents to the proper dilution for efficient digestion and absorption to occur.
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So if you are still wondering if it's true, well look on the Internet and see if you find it.&nbsp; If you do, then it's bound to be true.&nbsp; Right?
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John LeBlanc

--- On Fri, 6/13/08, Vannerson, William G. &lt;WVannerson@foley.com&gt; wrote:

From: Vannerson, William G. &lt;WVannerson@foley.com&gt;
Subject: [philmont] Dehydrated Corn
To: "philmont List Member" &lt;philmont@troop47.com&gt;
Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 12:09 PM

&gt;&gt;When they do this, make sure they drink LOTS of water.or risk dehydration from the corn literally sucking the moisture to rehydrate it.
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At first read this makes sense, but then I thought about it and wondered it it were true. (not to pick a fight).&nbsp; Wouldn;t the stomack acid start breaking down the corn without rehydrating.
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BTW, there was only enough to go araound and give everyone a small taste.
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YIS
Willie Vannerson
Assistant Scoutmaster
Troop 149, McHenry, IL
www.troop149mchenry.org

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